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ironphoenix ([personal profile] ironphoenix) wrote2008-08-04 08:11 pm
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"far more than a hot day and wet feet"

[livejournal.com profile] peristaltor wrote a good summary post about mass extinctions (90+%) and their relation to global warming; scary stuff! He is summarizing things drawn from several sources, which I will have to look into separately.

I followed the link to one of his sources, an interview with the Chief Scientist at NASA's Langley Research Center, from which the subject line is drawn, and that gives even more stuff to think about (much of it going considerably beyond the energy and extinction question).

Both are highly recommended reads; the former takes less time to get through, but the latter is somewhat jaw-dropping in scope.

[identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com 2008-08-09 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Increases in phytoplankton communities fixing more CO2

That's exactly what the author of Under a Green Sky is saying won't happen, because "green sulfur bacteria... [and] other bacteria ... produce toxic amounts of hydrogen sulfide, and the flux of this gas into the atmosphere, where it breaks down the ozone layer, and the subsequent increase in ultraviolet radiation from the sun kills much of the photosynthetic green plant phytoplankton."

If he's right, what's left to stop the avalanche?

[identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com 2008-08-09 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, sulfur bacteria can do that. Thing is that sulfur bacteria only thrive in anoxic conditions, such as water without oxygen in it. Sulfur bacteria typically only live in sulfur rich, oxygen deprived and chemically active zones such as black smokers or industrial waste. Phosphorus runoff does cause dead zones along the coast and furthers the process, but not enough to cause that amount of snowballing solo. The whole UV radiation killing photosynthetic phytoplankton is bull though. Heck, the product of those bacteria is actually Sulfate which (to the best of my memory) actually blocks sunlight input and accordingly decreases global temperatures in that fashion.

Yes, dead zones are a major problem and some green sulfur bacteria can contribute to making a bigger mess but that alone isn't unstoppable. It's in a different stable state which is less disturbed then some of the others.

[identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com 2008-08-09 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole UV radiation killing photosynthetic phytoplankton is bull though. Heck, the product of those bacteria is actually Sulfate which (to the best of my memory) actually blocks sunlight input and accordingly decreases global temperatures in that fashion.

Well, that's good to hear!