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ironphoenix ([personal profile] ironphoenix) wrote2008-09-25 05:39 pm
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Imaginary money

Complex numbers have a real and an imaginary part. Complex finance leads to people having real and imaginary dollars, and as [livejournal.com profile] metahacker eloquently expresses it, the imaginary dollars are a con game which is running out.

[identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com 2008-09-25 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with her point, although all dollars are imaginary. Even most of the value of gold is imaginary. This isn't a bad thing.

What she's talking about does seem to be a bad thing though.

[identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm drawing a distinction between agreed-upon value, which is 'imaginary' the way that laws are 'imaginary'*, and fictitious value, which is even less real than that -- it's invented unilaterally, and its origins are then hidden to make it appear agreed-upon. So I suppose it's a bit like that favorable house rule you made up for your poker game and then claimed you saw on TV's Greatest Stars Embarrass Themselves Playing Poker. Except somehow worth a trillion dollars.

(* they're plenty imaginary, but try breaking a few of the wrong ones...)

[identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
But currency is the same way. I have no idea why a dollar is worth what it is. And I'm not going to have much luck convincing people that it is worth more than everyone says it is.

[identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that the agreement on value was founded on false pretenses (and therefore fell apart when reality asserted itself) is indeed a crucial distinction there.

[identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
his/him, I'm pretty sure!

[identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I... I have no idea why I made that assumption.

[identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's an interesting one... I wonder what subconscious cues you read that way.

[identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder that too.