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ironphoenix) wrote2008-11-25 11:27 pm
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Advice? (1 of 2)
It occurs to me that some of you may have good ideas about things I should or shouldn't do, but you may be too chickenshit timid tactful to tell me unless I ask.
So I'm asking! What advice do you have for me?
Just one little rule: if you would be offended if I don't take your advice, please hold your peace. I doubt this is an issue for the folks on my flist, but it's worth stating explicitly to prevent misunderstandings.
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So I'm asking! What advice do you have for me?
Just one little rule: if you would be offended if I don't take your advice, please hold your peace. I doubt this is an issue for the folks on my flist, but it's worth stating explicitly to prevent misunderstandings.
Replies to this post are unscreened; discussion is allowed, and even encouraged. Even anonymous replies will be considered. If you aren't comfortable with that, see next post!
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random generic advice
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You're right, I do have social inhibitions that take a while to come down in a group; I'm working on it, but as is often the case, there's Historytm there which takes some time to deal with. In three words, elementary school sucked.
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One comment, that is quite generic to a number of men, is learning to know when someone just wants to vent about a problem rather than asking for help and a specific solution. Often we know the solutions to our problems (speaking generally) or know that there aren't any, and need someone to confirm that it is a legitimate problem and we are right to feel annoyed or angry, or whatever other emotions that are experienced. I notice that most male engineers want to 'fix' all the time, and I've had to drop some friends because after a while all they would do was tell me what they wanted to do with my life. I haven't had to do that with you, as you were never invasive (just trying to be helpful) and we drifted apart when I got a real job :), but I do tend to only mention problems that cannot be changed at all or ones that I think you can really help with.
If a friend (so not a coworker with a broken board) comes to you with a problem, try being sympathetic and verbalising your agreement and validation of their reactions, and then ask *if* they want your advice. Be prepared for "Advice? Well, I guess so but mostly I wanted to vent" or something similar, and if you do get that reaction then it means they don't really want the advice!
Keep in mind, I haven't spent a lot of time with you since university, and I have no idea how much this may apply to you now. Take it as you wish.
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As for the empathy/sympathy vs. "help" thing, I'm working on that; I think my current social circle is pretty good that way, generally, so it's a bit easier when it's the norm I see more often than amid stacks of engineering students.
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Never set the cat on fire, you only will annoy it.
And mind your manners, as circumstances may require.
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And now and then stab, as occasion serves."
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